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In Conversation With... Nicholas Ma & Michael Gulker

The origin, impact, and hopefulness of the new film Leap of Faith

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As part of the launch of the 31 Days of Unity Campaign, we are talking with campaign contributors about their efforts to cultivate unity. In this conversation, Ideos Vice President Greg Arthur engages with contributor Michael Gulker, President of The Colossian Forum, and Film Director Nicholas Ma to discuss the challenges and possibilities of cultivating unity within the church amidst a polarized society. They explore the themes of healing divisions, the role of film in bridging differences, and the importance of vulnerability and accountability in leadership.

The discussion highlights the unexpected connections formed among diverse pastors and the transformative power of curiosity and empathy in fostering relationships. The conversation culminates in reflections on hope and the broader message of their film, 'Leap of Faith', which aims to inspire audiences to take their own leaps towards unity and love.

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Find our more about the film Leap of Faith


You can view the trailer for the film here.

Film Description: From the Filmmakers who brought you Won’t You Be My Neighbor? Twelve diverse Christian leaders find hope and fellowship at a series of boundary-breaking retreats in Michigan. They struggle with some of today’s most contentious issues, testing both their common beliefs and the bonds they build over the course of a year. Inspiring and provocative, LEAP OF FAITH explores whether we can disagree and still belong to each other in a divided world. Visit www.leapoffaithmovie.com for more information.

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In Conversation With..... An Ideos Institute/ (Re)union Project Podcast
In Conversation With... is a podcast from Ideos Institute, a growing community of Christians working to foster unity and reconciliation amidst escalating polarization. This podcast is part of the (Re)union Project, a movement of Christians dedicated to the work of building greater unity within the American Church so, UNITED, we can serve as a redemptive presence in a nation divided.
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